1 00:00:37,770 --> 00:00:24,940 so 2 00:00:37,780 --> 00:00:42,709 [Music] 3 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:45,830 what's up everybody 4 00:00:50,069 --> 00:00:48,399 happy tuesday hope you're doing well 5 00:00:52,549 --> 00:00:50,079 um 6 00:00:55,910 --> 00:00:52,559 we are going to cover 7 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:55,920 that thing called awesome 8 00:01:01,110 --> 00:00:58,960 you know some people could say it sounds 9 00:01:05,270 --> 00:01:01,120 like a sneeze 10 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:07,270 no but uh 11 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:09,680 first of all hello 12 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:13,600 to everybody here uh laura brent 13 00:01:17,749 --> 00:01:16,000 elena andres 14 00:01:21,910 --> 00:01:17,759 chose everybody else who's here i 15 00:01:23,510 --> 00:01:21,920 appreciate it feel free to comment and 16 00:01:25,429 --> 00:01:23,520 join the chat 17 00:01:27,590 --> 00:01:25,439 i really do appreciate it 18 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:27,600 uh dutch how you doing 19 00:01:30,789 --> 00:01:29,200 um we're gonna have a good time today 20 00:01:32,469 --> 00:01:30,799 and we're gonna cover what is an 21 00:01:33,990 --> 00:01:32,479 important topic so 22 00:01:36,469 --> 00:01:34,000 uh 23 00:01:38,789 --> 00:01:36,479 some paperwork has come out from 24 00:01:40,630 --> 00:01:38,799 whatsapp 25 00:01:42,310 --> 00:01:40,640 what's up jason 26 00:01:45,830 --> 00:01:42,320 appreciate you hanging out 27 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:45,840 uh in that paperwork it goes beyond the 28 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:47,040 um 29 00:01:50,469 --> 00:01:49,119 the dirts which are basically the papers 30 00:01:53,350 --> 00:01:50,479 that they put together the research 31 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:56,630 so i figured we had george and uh calm 32 00:02:01,749 --> 00:01:59,680 on here not too long ago 33 00:02:03,109 --> 00:02:01,759 and 34 00:02:04,870 --> 00:02:03,119 you know at that point we only had the 35 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:04,880 papers and there's only so much you can 36 00:02:10,790 --> 00:02:08,239 really go by by then and this story is 37 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:10,800 you know of awesome a tip 38 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:12,959 and everything goes back a ways now 39 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:15,680 right that was 2008 40 00:02:19,110 --> 00:02:17,520 so 41 00:02:21,510 --> 00:02:19,120 that's a while 42 00:02:24,630 --> 00:02:23,350 you know so it's just now that some of 43 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:24,640 this stuff is coming out thanks to 44 00:02:28,869 --> 00:02:27,520 people like uh alejandro rojet rojas 45 00:02:32,790 --> 00:02:28,879 um 46 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:32,800 and uh keith basterfield george knapp 47 00:02:36,710 --> 00:02:34,480 uh the book that him and calm put 48 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:36,720 together with uh lakoski 49 00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:38,400 senator harry reid there's all this 50 00:02:42,229 --> 00:02:40,239 stuff going on and there's all sorts of 51 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:42,239 people saying different things about 52 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:44,800 what they think is going on with osap 53 00:02:48,070 --> 00:02:45,840 and atep 54 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:48,080 and lou elizondo and all that kind of 55 00:02:53,990 --> 00:02:50,480 stuff for instance um 56 00:02:56,470 --> 00:02:54,000 black vault kind of seems to think that 57 00:02:58,550 --> 00:02:56,480 the asset program 58 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:58,560 the dia wanted them to put together just 59 00:03:01,830 --> 00:03:00,480 these papers and that alone and they 60 00:03:03,589 --> 00:03:01,840 wound up 61 00:03:05,030 --> 00:03:03,599 doing all this paranormal stuff at 62 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:05,040 skinwalker ranch 63 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:08,080 uh without the i8 no one basically 64 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:15,430 they think all sorts of stuff and 65 00:03:19,509 --> 00:03:17,040 to me 66 00:03:21,350 --> 00:03:19,519 if you look at the whole picture 67 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:21,360 everything lewis said over the years 68 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:23,680 everything that george has said senator 69 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:25,920 harry reid everything 70 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:28,480 um and then you incorporate like the 71 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:31,519 history of uh ufo investigations with 72 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:32,640 the government 73 00:03:37,750 --> 00:03:35,760 who did those investigations the wording 74 00:03:39,509 --> 00:03:37,760 of those groups 75 00:03:42,789 --> 00:03:39,519 things start to come together a little 76 00:03:44,630 --> 00:03:42,799 bit so i thought that i would do 77 00:03:47,270 --> 00:03:44,640 a little synopsis 78 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:47,280 educated hypothesis 79 00:03:51,430 --> 00:03:48,720 i would say 80 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:51,440 on what exactly 81 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:52,560 i think 82 00:03:59,350 --> 00:03:55,920 is going on 83 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:00,789 there's a couple ways that we could do 84 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:03,840 this but i figured i would start with 85 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:13,350 the history of the ufo investigations 86 00:04:17,030 --> 00:04:15,350 and so we know 87 00:04:18,949 --> 00:04:17,040 what were these groups called that did 88 00:04:22,469 --> 00:04:18,959 these investigations right 89 00:04:24,629 --> 00:04:22,479 i mean we know it as blue book or grudge 90 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:24,639 or sign but who were the people that 91 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:26,720 were running those code projects 92 00:04:31,510 --> 00:04:29,840 codenamed projects which again were code 93 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:31,520 had code names 94 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:33,120 they were attic 95 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:35,680 right aerospace technical intelligence 96 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:40,469 really ran it and they gave it a code 97 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:42,400 name a blue book 98 00:04:44,230 --> 00:04:43,360 grudge 99 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:44,240 sign 100 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:46,560 whatever 101 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:48,160 later on 102 00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:49,680 foreign 103 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:52,880 technology division 104 00:04:58,070 --> 00:04:55,680 did investigations as well 105 00:04:59,749 --> 00:04:58,080 now people say they look at it 106 00:05:03,189 --> 00:04:59,759 on its face and say foreign so they're 107 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:03,199 talking about like china russia right 108 00:05:05,990 --> 00:05:04,160 yes 109 00:05:08,469 --> 00:05:06,000 and others 110 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:08,479 case in point we'll get to 111 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:10,720 and we'll just start off here with 112 00:05:14,150 --> 00:05:12,960 some simple photographs 113 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:14,160 because it really drives them to the 114 00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:15,759 point 115 00:05:18,950 --> 00:05:17,360 some of these photographs you are 116 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:18,960 familiar with and this is from a case 117 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:22,000 august 3rd 1965 and i'm really only 118 00:05:26,310 --> 00:05:23,520 showing these 119 00:05:28,070 --> 00:05:26,320 so you can see 120 00:05:32,550 --> 00:05:28,080 what does it say on there it says 121 00:05:39,909 --> 00:05:35,670 air force special command 122 00:05:45,749 --> 00:05:41,909 you're probably familiar with these 123 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:48,790 these pictures 124 00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:51,270 now what's interesting is 125 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:57,590 who actually did the research 126 00:06:02,950 --> 00:05:59,120 into this 127 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:04,629 and i don't want to take too long so we 128 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:06,479 can get into the newer stuff but i just 129 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:07,600 want to 130 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:09,440 kind of bring you up to speed with 131 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:12,160 history as our guide as far as what this 132 00:06:18,710 --> 00:06:13,360 stuff looks like inside of the 133 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,710 so 134 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,710 let me make this a little bigger for you 135 00:06:31,590 --> 00:06:28,790 boom there we go 136 00:06:33,270 --> 00:06:31,600 so check this out 137 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:33,280 the people that investigated this case 138 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:35,440 that we just looked at the picture of it 139 00:06:41,749 --> 00:06:38,400 space systems division 140 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:41,759 air force systems command 141 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:45,039 space systems division 142 00:06:55,029 --> 00:06:47,440 aerospace technical intelligence center 143 00:06:58,870 --> 00:06:57,350 this is a different case and i'm just 144 00:07:01,510 --> 00:06:58,880 using a different case 145 00:07:03,350 --> 00:07:01,520 so you can 146 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:03,360 um see that it wasn't a one-time 147 00:07:06,550 --> 00:07:04,400 occurrence 148 00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:06,560 right this is a different case that was 149 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:09,919 april 21st 1966 again reported to the 150 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:18,230 staff security 151 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:20,230 here's another case 152 00:07:24,479 --> 00:07:28,790 space systems division 153 00:07:32,629 --> 00:07:30,390 and these are ufo 154 00:07:37,189 --> 00:07:32,639 sightings 155 00:07:41,110 --> 00:07:38,790 part of the air force 156 00:07:43,589 --> 00:07:41,120 investigated as well as aerial technical 157 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:43,599 intelligence center right 158 00:07:49,189 --> 00:07:46,080 so i showed that to you for a particular 159 00:07:52,230 --> 00:07:50,550 one is 160 00:07:55,749 --> 00:07:52,240 when we look at these papers that they 161 00:08:00,469 --> 00:07:55,759 put together asap right advanced aerial 162 00:08:06,150 --> 00:08:03,749 we can look in those papers 163 00:08:08,629 --> 00:08:06,160 and as we get to these documents 164 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:08,639 they say things as far as what their 165 00:08:14,469 --> 00:08:10,000 goal was and what they were supposed to 166 00:08:16,550 --> 00:08:14,479 do was to look into technology 167 00:08:18,710 --> 00:08:16,560 you know basically disruptive technology 168 00:08:21,029 --> 00:08:18,720 up to 40 years away from now and what 169 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:21,039 that would look like 170 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:22,960 in foreign systems 171 00:08:32,230 --> 00:08:29,029 so when we look at foreign weapons or 172 00:08:36,070 --> 00:08:34,310 it would behoove us to just 173 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:36,080 think that that means 174 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:42,949 in the past 175 00:08:46,870 --> 00:08:45,279 that's awesome at ufos 176 00:08:48,470 --> 00:08:46,880 and we're not making that up we just 177 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:48,480 looked at the documents 178 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:49,600 and there's 179 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:51,760 decades worth of those documents to 180 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:01,190 so the other thing you could say is 181 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:03,509 that was the air force right and this 182 00:09:08,710 --> 00:09:06,640 last app is dia 183 00:09:11,110 --> 00:09:08,720 the di8 184 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:11,120 look into any of this stuff ufos 185 00:09:14,710 --> 00:09:13,040 paranormal stuff whatever 186 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:14,720 foreign technology 187 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:17,839 well yes in fact they did 188 00:09:22,790 --> 00:09:19,360 this i found the other day on their 189 00:09:27,910 --> 00:09:26,230 it was uh from a warsaw pact 190 00:09:32,470 --> 00:09:27,920 if you're familiar with that that was 191 00:09:36,150 --> 00:09:32,480 like um something formed to combat nato 192 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:38,310 this is something that the 193 00:09:44,949 --> 00:09:42,240 air force put together for the dia 194 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:44,959 foreign technology division right ftd 195 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:50,790 paraphysics r d warsaw pack so what 196 00:09:55,350 --> 00:09:52,240 could be in this 197 00:09:56,230 --> 00:09:55,360 all sorts of stuff 198 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:56,240 right 199 00:09:58,470 --> 00:09:57,040 this 200 00:10:00,150 --> 00:09:58,480 handled 201 00:10:03,509 --> 00:10:00,160 and gave a deep history on the 202 00:10:08,949 --> 00:10:03,519 paraphysics going back to the late 1800s 203 00:10:12,949 --> 00:10:11,350 and we're talking about things like 204 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:12,959 spoon bending 205 00:10:17,910 --> 00:10:15,920 rv we're talking about 206 00:10:20,710 --> 00:10:17,920 which is a remote viewing we're talking 207 00:10:21,750 --> 00:10:20,720 about um psychic abilities we're talking 208 00:10:24,310 --> 00:10:21,760 about 209 00:10:28,069 --> 00:10:24,320 even deeper things like um 210 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:28,079 how our minds connect as holograms um 211 00:10:31,509 --> 00:10:30,000 all sorts of stuff 212 00:10:33,269 --> 00:10:31,519 the dia 213 00:10:34,949 --> 00:10:33,279 got this report and it's on their 214 00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:34,959 website 215 00:10:38,949 --> 00:10:37,360 which i would think 216 00:10:42,470 --> 00:10:38,959 is 217 00:10:45,910 --> 00:10:44,710 kyle asks where did these docs come from 218 00:10:48,230 --> 00:10:45,920 these ducks 219 00:10:49,829 --> 00:10:48,240 this one particular pair of physics came 220 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:49,839 from the dia 221 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:52,000 foia reading room 222 00:10:54,870 --> 00:10:53,440 the other ones i 223 00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:54,880 showed 224 00:10:59,670 --> 00:10:56,720 were 225 00:11:02,710 --> 00:10:59,680 attic files which you can find in the 226 00:11:06,310 --> 00:11:02,720 blue book archives 227 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,509 along with about 10 000 other files 228 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:18,389 or folders files i should say 229 00:11:22,949 --> 00:11:21,350 so this here is another thing 230 00:11:25,990 --> 00:11:22,959 that is found 231 00:11:29,430 --> 00:11:26,000 on the dia's website 232 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:29,440 it's about grill flame and sri sri was 233 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:30,480 rained by 234 00:11:32,970 --> 00:11:31,360 well 235 00:11:35,110 --> 00:11:32,980 hal pudov worked there um 236 00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:35,120 [Music] 237 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:37,440 uh russell targ or tag is it i always 238 00:11:41,829 --> 00:11:39,360 get that wrong 239 00:11:45,350 --> 00:11:41,839 they did a lot of rv stuff they did a 240 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:45,360 bunch of stuff they even proposed a 241 00:11:49,829 --> 00:11:47,200 contract i think it was the cia to 242 00:11:51,269 --> 00:11:49,839 investigate ufos in like 1972 or 243 00:11:57,670 --> 00:11:51,279 something 244 00:11:59,590 --> 00:11:57,680 well to what extent i'm not sure but he 245 00:12:01,509 --> 00:11:59,600 just talked about grill flame and his 246 00:12:04,389 --> 00:12:01,519 latest talk at archives of the 247 00:12:09,590 --> 00:12:07,590 grill flame is an out there project that 248 00:12:11,670 --> 00:12:09,600 a lot of people would like to discredit 249 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:11,680 as far as remote viewing and all that 250 00:12:18,150 --> 00:12:14,560 sort of stuff the fact is the dia 251 00:12:20,230 --> 00:12:18,160 the cia and other people 252 00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:20,240 the army as we can see 253 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:22,000 use this stuff 254 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:30,550 as we move on we get to advanced 255 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:32,480 aerospace weapon system applications 256 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:34,160 contract 257 00:12:37,350 --> 00:12:35,760 so we know 258 00:12:41,269 --> 00:12:37,360 aerospace 259 00:12:44,949 --> 00:12:43,590 as far as a word for groups of the 260 00:12:47,430 --> 00:12:44,959 government arms of the government that 261 00:12:49,590 --> 00:12:47,440 would investigate ufos 262 00:12:53,829 --> 00:12:49,600 we're told that this was a program that 263 00:12:57,990 --> 00:12:55,990 the dia 264 00:12:59,990 --> 00:12:58,000 definitely has a history of 265 00:13:02,150 --> 00:13:00,000 researching and looking into paranormal 266 00:13:03,670 --> 00:13:02,160 aspects we also know 267 00:13:04,829 --> 00:13:03,680 asap 268 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:04,839 looked into 269 00:13:08,550 --> 00:13:06,560 paranormal 270 00:13:11,829 --> 00:13:08,560 things as well 271 00:13:13,990 --> 00:13:11,839 i don't see anything out of the ordinary 272 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:14,000 right now 273 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,430 all the papers that came out 274 00:13:27,829 --> 00:13:24,870 and 275 00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:27,839 just kind of i went through all of them 276 00:13:33,350 --> 00:13:30,000 most of them are just the different uh 277 00:13:34,550 --> 00:13:33,360 papers that they have written 278 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:34,560 which you know 279 00:13:39,509 --> 00:13:37,760 there's like a 1500 pages worth 280 00:13:39,860 --> 00:13:39,519 so i went through 281 00:13:41,910 --> 00:13:39,870 um 282 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:41,920 [Music] 283 00:13:46,389 --> 00:13:44,000 basically all of them and and clipped 284 00:13:49,030 --> 00:13:46,399 out the things that 285 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:49,040 uh we could go through that kind of 286 00:13:56,710 --> 00:13:54,949 in the second paragraph of his letter 287 00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:56,720 senator reid cites the identification of 288 00:14:01,030 --> 00:13:58,959 highly sensitive unconventional 289 00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:01,040 unconventional aerospace related 290 00:14:05,110 --> 00:14:02,720 findings 291 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:05,120 what ufos were called oftentimes were 292 00:14:10,470 --> 00:14:08,880 unconventional flying objects 293 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:10,480 that will require extraordinary 294 00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:12,000 protection although most of the 295 00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:14,560 unclassified reports discuss 296 00:14:19,269 --> 00:14:16,800 unconventional aerospace technologies di 297 00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:19,279 is unaware of any report containing 298 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:21,199 information sufficiently sensitive and 299 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:22,480 vulnerable 300 00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:26,000 to require extra protection associated 301 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:27,600 so what does this mean 302 00:14:30,389 --> 00:14:28,800 this 303 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:30,399 why did they say that why did they say 304 00:14:35,350 --> 00:14:33,120 that asap didn't need a special access 305 00:14:37,269 --> 00:14:35,360 program or basically protection well 306 00:14:39,189 --> 00:14:37,279 that's because all their research that 307 00:14:41,829 --> 00:14:39,199 they did for those papers 308 00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:41,839 was based off of unclassified public 309 00:14:50,629 --> 00:14:47,990 and this was in the first year 310 00:14:52,310 --> 00:14:50,639 senator harry reid wanted extraordinary 311 00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:52,320 protection 312 00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:53,839 because in the following year the next 313 00:14:57,269 --> 00:14:55,920 year coming up things were going to 314 00:14:58,470 --> 00:14:57,279 start to 315 00:15:02,310 --> 00:14:58,480 get to a point of where they were 316 00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:05,509 and i'll tell you why i think already 317 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:12,870 and it's interesting when dia looks at 318 00:15:17,509 --> 00:15:15,519 this because they've given they gave 319 00:15:20,470 --> 00:15:17,519 reviews on basically all the papers that 320 00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:20,480 they wrote whatsapp and put together 321 00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:27,030 one they didn't touch or give a review 322 00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:28,560 for 323 00:15:32,470 --> 00:15:29,839 was 324 00:15:34,629 --> 00:15:32,480 the biological effects which is we went 325 00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:34,639 over on the show not too long ago which 326 00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:37,360 is obviously ufo related because 327 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:47,350 materials for advanced aerospace 328 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:57,749 so this is interesting to me 329 00:16:01,749 --> 00:15:59,910 i'll read it the info memo responds to 330 00:16:03,749 --> 00:16:01,759 your request for the 331 00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:03,759 blank to review the quality value of the 332 00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:06,079 first year technical reports delivered 333 00:16:10,389 --> 00:16:07,920 under awe sap contract with bigelow 334 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:10,399 aerospace bass as a reminder you made 335 00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:11,680 this request 336 00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:14,320 to personnel during 15 of may 337 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:16,320 2009 338 00:16:19,749 --> 00:16:17,920 after meeting with senator harry reid 339 00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:19,759 the goal of the contract is to identify 340 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:22,560 key technologies and physics concepts 341 00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:24,320 that would support revolutionary 342 00:16:27,670 --> 00:16:26,000 aerospace vehicle research and 343 00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:27,680 development contracted studies were 344 00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:30,240 designed to provide prioritized list of 345 00:16:33,350 --> 00:16:32,160 technologies concepts 346 00:16:34,949 --> 00:16:33,360 that then 347 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:34,959 would drive detailed focused searches 348 00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:36,800 into foreign 349 00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:38,560 aerospace research and development 350 00:16:43,189 --> 00:16:41,440 remember that word foreign 351 00:16:46,870 --> 00:16:43,199 we just went over that 352 00:16:49,030 --> 00:16:46,880 foreign technology division aerospace 353 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:49,040 atec 354 00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:51,360 aerospace technical intelligence center 355 00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:59,269 so we have to remember that when we look 356 00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:01,279 at this stuff now so we can have some 357 00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:03,360 sort of context with it 358 00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:05,600 each research report into the areas of 359 00:17:09,909 --> 00:17:07,520 lift propulsion control power generation 360 00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:09,919 spatial temporal translation materials 361 00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:11,919 structural configuration signature 362 00:17:17,909 --> 00:17:15,919 reduction human interface human effects 363 00:17:20,390 --> 00:17:17,919 and armament was written by world-class 364 00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:20,400 technical experts in industry and or 365 00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:25,270 human effects remember again we looked 366 00:17:32,789 --> 00:17:30,390 this 367 00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:32,799 i picked out because it was super 368 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:34,080 interesting to me 369 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:36,160 this is in regards to 370 00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:39,520 um hypersonic technology 371 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:42,000 and i'm trying to look into 372 00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:43,840 uh the different aspects of hypersonic 373 00:17:47,909 --> 00:17:46,400 technology it's also interesting to me 374 00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:47,919 because 375 00:17:51,750 --> 00:17:49,679 this talks about 376 00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:51,760 the different efforts to do that one by 377 00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:53,280 which 378 00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:55,760 was nasa and the other was the air force 379 00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:57,600 and it got to a point where they both 380 00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:58,400 had 381 00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:00,960 a disagreement you can see here the us 382 00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:08,070 over the operational capability of these 383 00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:10,080 aircraft what they're trying to do here 384 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:12,480 and what this is talking about is making 385 00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:18,070 that what 386 00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:20,720 this is about is making a spaceship that 387 00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:24,160 can be manned and fly to outer space and 388 00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:32,870 those are the different designs drawings 389 00:18:50,230 --> 00:18:41,110 and i just clipped these out because i 390 00:18:54,230 --> 00:18:52,549 uh what's interesting here is it gets 391 00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,240 into a couple of the companies that were 392 00:18:58,230 --> 00:18:57,120 actually trying to do this mcdonald 393 00:19:02,230 --> 00:18:58,240 douglas 394 00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:05,029 that is a great comment elena 395 00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:07,600 interesting shape 396 00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:10,480 and it says right up here it says delta 397 00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:12,320 what do we see we see a lot of triangle 398 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:19,909 uh salvador pi is his uh 399 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:23,280 um patent craft 400 00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:25,840 triangle shaped 401 00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:33,430 there are triangle shapes that are 402 00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:35,919 flown so to speak if you can say flown 403 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,310 which a human interface 404 00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:46,390 that can control matter without use of 405 00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:48,720 anything like your limbs 406 00:20:07,190 --> 00:19:58,950 uh 407 00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:07,200 can go try to find them for you 408 00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:09,200 and share them with you 409 00:20:14,549 --> 00:20:10,640 um 410 00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:14,559 alejandro rowhead rojas got them 411 00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:21,990 and yeah so that's that's how i got them 412 00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:25,039 the sun wrote about uh this as well 413 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:27,360 and they wrote about basically 414 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:29,600 the episode that we did last week or 415 00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:30,480 even 416 00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:33,120 uh the week before which was about uh 417 00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:36,080 biological effects so we were on top of 418 00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:37,039 that 419 00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:38,480 before they were 420 00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:40,240 as always here 421 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:43,600 and witness freaking citizen 422 00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:45,520 yeah 423 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,720 um 424 00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:48,480 quick glance 425 00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:49,600 yeah 426 00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:51,440 i'll try to get them but uh if you 427 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:53,679 follow keith basterfield 428 00:21:00,830 --> 00:20:56,799 um you're likely to find them rather 429 00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:02,710 so 430 00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:05,679 hopefully that helps 431 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,880 um moving on 432 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:11,039 begin publishing the 24 technical report 433 00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:14,320 deliverables as soon as possible 434 00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:16,720 um initiate university national lab 435 00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:19,200 research 436 00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:22,720 architecture 437 00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:24,640 ensure that the sei personal security 438 00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:27,039 clearances continue 439 00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:30,400 begin processing of lower class so this 440 00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:31,600 is just 441 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,590 moving on program management plans 442 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,990 so 443 00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:46,789 this 444 00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:49,679 i think is an important one and so and 445 00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:50,960 i'll tell you why in general each 446 00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:53,200 multi-year program management plan two 447 00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,000 to four feasibility uh technical concept 448 00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:58,320 baseline study suggested and here is the 449 00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:00,960 important one i think 450 00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:03,600 comparison of the aerospace vehicle 451 00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:06,240 concept with observable 452 00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:13,190 comparison of what aerospace vehicle 453 00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:21,350 so what they're doing here like i said 454 00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:23,280 is building a spaceship 455 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:25,360 and they're building it based off of 456 00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:28,480 what i think is reverse engineering 457 00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:31,919 of observable data 458 00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:33,919 of something that already exists 459 00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:42,230 in the interview we had with uh calm and 460 00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:43,919 george kneb 461 00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:45,760 george plainly said 462 00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:47,520 that 463 00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:48,880 ozap 464 00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:50,960 was supposed to figure this out these 465 00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:53,440 things out 466 00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:58,789 that's what he said 467 00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:00,880 we can see all the papers 468 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,840 are trying to figure something out 469 00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:05,360 and we can see this bullet point line 470 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:07,120 comparison of the aerospace vehicle 471 00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:13,590 they're trying to reverse engineer what 472 00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:15,919 they see 473 00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:17,520 and what they've learned via human 474 00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:21,440 effects as calm set on our show 475 00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:23,600 to reverse engineer that 476 00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:25,760 to figure out the technologies to help 477 00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:27,760 figure out the technologies 478 00:23:32,230 --> 00:23:29,840 another interesting thing is we go back 479 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:34,470 senator harry reid and when he said that 480 00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:37,600 he attempted to 481 00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:40,960 look at sensitive materials 482 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:49,190 at lockheed martin and he was denied 483 00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:50,390 that would also 484 00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:53,360 fall in line with trying to figure out 485 00:23:57,669 --> 00:23:55,520 what the things are 486 00:24:02,789 --> 00:23:57,679 and apparently they thought 487 00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:04,549 this is interesting to me 488 00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:05,919 blake will be transferring to black 489 00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:08,559 during fy 10. if project continues past 490 00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:10,880 fy10 uh blank recommends that the 491 00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:14,159 contract to be moved out of dia okay so 492 00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:15,200 we know 493 00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:18,080 uh what we were told that uh osap ran 494 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:22,159 from about 2008 to 2010 right 495 00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:23,600 and we also have this eight tip 496 00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:27,200 situation with lou elizondo 497 00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:30,799 and we have a letter from harry reid and 498 00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:39,510 and combines atip and asap right 499 00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:40,640 atip 500 00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:43,039 was a nickname 501 00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:45,840 for osap it was a way to discuss the 502 00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:47,360 program 503 00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:50,000 and use that name in an unclassified 504 00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:55,350 so but it 505 00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:57,120 so what it is is going back to what we 506 00:25:02,149 --> 00:24:59,279 were talking before we had 507 00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:02,159 attic right 508 00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:04,159 aerospace technical intelligence center 509 00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:07,279 and they had their code name blue book 510 00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:09,520 that did the ufo studies 511 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,159 to me that's not a whole lot different 512 00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:14,640 than ossep 513 00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:21,430 i know this is probably hard to 514 00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:22,880 well it's at least hard for me to follow 515 00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:24,400 along with i'm sure it is for you as 516 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:26,240 well but i'm doing my best you can stop 517 00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:29,760 and ask questions at any point so 518 00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:32,480 we know that offset stopped in fy10 lou 519 00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:35,039 elizondo says that he was doing a tip 520 00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,269 if this project 521 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:45,600 stopped in 2010 like we were told and 522 00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:47,760 the recommendation was for that contract 523 00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:49,760 to be moved out of dia 524 00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:51,520 what are the chances 525 00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:54,799 that it did move and continue out of dia 526 00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:02,310 maybe via lou elizondo 527 00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:05,360 now called and is eight tip without the 528 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:14,549 and without bob bigelow 529 00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:17,590 i think that's very possible 530 00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:19,679 and it kind of lines up 531 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:29,350 so to me the contract was not renewed 532 00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:31,760 with bass but the program more or less 533 00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:34,559 moved on and moved out of dia 534 00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:37,360 we know that 535 00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:39,120 via calm 536 00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:41,679 the dinner that come had with lou 537 00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:43,840 elizondo and all that they had at dinner 538 00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:46,480 and he described to us on our interview 539 00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:47,919 that lou alexander was there for 540 00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:50,080 counterintelligence reasons basically 541 00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:52,080 which we can see in the paperwork harry 542 00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:54,400 reid and obviously others 543 00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:56,240 wanted some sort of uh 544 00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:57,360 protection 545 00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:58,640 via 546 00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:01,120 a special access program or counter 547 00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:02,480 intelligence 548 00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:04,200 lose there he's there for 549 00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:10,070 so that was probably maybe the 550 00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:16,950 this one's moving on 551 00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:19,679 a tip continues with it blue alexander 552 00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,120 does it and from my knowledge they do it 553 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,520 in their free time 554 00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:27,760 outside of their normal 555 00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:30,399 uh government day jobs 556 00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:32,399 alexander said they had funding i don't 557 00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:42,230 so again here we got bullet point number 558 00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:47,909 we've got the senator sponsored language 559 00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,760 in the july 2008 supplemental 560 00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,360 appropriation bill for dia to 561 00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:53,039 investigate foreign 562 00:28:01,430 --> 00:28:00,149 that language falls in line with what we 563 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:01,440 know it to be 564 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,269 senator reed has a deep interest in the 565 00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,360 potential threat posed by unconventional 566 00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:11,360 aerospace technologies 567 00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:13,760 that is technologies that are a radical 568 00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,000 departure to those used in current 569 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:18,720 advanced aerospace vehicles 570 00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:21,039 in response to this tasking like 571 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:23,760 publisher request for proposals 572 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,840 yada yada yada another thing that's 573 00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,360 interesting about this if you think 574 00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:29,520 about the tic tac 575 00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:32,159 incident which was 2004 576 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,200 and here we are talking about 577 00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:37,840 all this technology 578 00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:40,000 writing papers 579 00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:42,159 trying to figure out 580 00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:44,080 how to make something that basically 581 00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:50,230 so i think this shows and kind of proves 582 00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,480 that the tic deck technology and that 583 00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:54,799 tick deck is not 584 00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:57,679 our technology because as we can see 585 00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:00,399 we don't possess the means or a vehicle 586 00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:12,630 this is in 2008 587 00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:14,799 and harry reid is saying things 588 00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:17,279 like radical departure to those used in 589 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,669 we have 590 00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:37,430 bottom line contract is on track the 591 00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:38,960 contract is currently proceeding on 592 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:41,679 schedule and within cost 593 00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:44,080 sounds like that's going pretty good 594 00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:45,520 so 595 00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:46,640 there's one 596 00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,000 um snippet in all of this paperwork that 597 00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:52,320 people have taken 598 00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:54,399 certain people 599 00:29:59,909 --> 00:29:57,440 have taken um to throw this all down the 600 00:30:02,070 --> 00:29:59,919 toilet and it's one sentence that says 601 00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:02,080 the d.i.a 602 00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:04,640 and a paraphrasing doesn't have any use 603 00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:06,720 for this kind of work 604 00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,990 so you have that one statement 605 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,600 all the other statements throughout this 606 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:14,880 paperwork 607 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:16,960 are glowing reviews 608 00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,960 and usefulness 609 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:20,640 which heavily outweigh 610 00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:23,440 that one statement by that one person 611 00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:24,559 for instance 612 00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:26,399 this contract is providing a unique 613 00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:28,960 opportunity for dia to both understand 614 00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,120 very advanced aerospace related 615 00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:33,279 technology and to determine its threat 616 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:35,520 potential to the us 617 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:37,360 as efforts expand in the future with 618 00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:40,640 worldwide calibrated data collection 619 00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:46,070 right with the whole government push is 620 00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:47,200 to get 621 00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:49,360 more worldwide calibrated data 622 00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:51,840 collection work well zondo talks about 623 00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:53,919 working with other partners right 624 00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:56,240 world class expert analysis university 625 00:31:02,070 --> 00:30:58,960 and national lab collaboration 626 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:02,080 i don't know uh avi loeb 627 00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:05,760 galileo project you can even say 628 00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:09,519 uapx isn't university but 629 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:10,960 information exchange with major 630 00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:14,080 aerospace and electronic firms 631 00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:16,880 enhanced on i and n a 632 00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:22,230 national 633 00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:23,039 uh 634 00:31:27,509 --> 00:31:25,440 i forget what that stands for national 635 00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:27,519 air and space intelligence community i 636 00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:29,440 believe cooperation 637 00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:32,720 but what that was 638 00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:35,200 many many decades before this 639 00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:38,080 was blue book attic right patterson air 640 00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,710 wikipedia atic attic air force 641 00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:48,480 they'll give you the timeline it'll lead 642 00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:56,470 dia will be the integrating force behind 643 00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:58,240 the development of a center of 644 00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:00,320 excellence in the area of advanced 645 00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,799 aerospace weapon system applications the 646 00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,240 continued support and guidance of 647 00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,720 senator reid 648 00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:08,880 and the other senator 649 00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:12,320 i can't pronounce that last name 650 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:14,480 uh it is crucial to the success of this 651 00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:23,110 and also andres good point attic to 652 00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:36,230 so again 653 00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:39,679 we have this d i a position 654 00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:41,279 and we kind of already went over this 655 00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:42,799 but the content 656 00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:44,559 but it's important the timeline here is 657 00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:46,000 important 658 00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:48,880 dia position based on the content of the 659 00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:53,509 excuse me fiscal year 660 00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:57,519 uh 2009 and expect 661 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,320 fy10 technical reports dia cannot find 662 00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:02,640 sufficient grounds under dod regulations 663 00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:05,760 to establish a restricted sap 664 00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,559 again that's because those papers 665 00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:10,559 were 666 00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:12,480 written and based off of public 667 00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:17,750 however the concerns that senator reid 668 00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:19,279 raises seems to suggest that the 669 00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,279 security and counterintelligence issues 670 00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:23,519 are in regard to future 671 00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:25,120 phases of this program and not 672 00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:27,760 necessarily the current contract effort 673 00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:29,120 if this assumption is correct and 674 00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:30,960 senator reid is looking ahead to 675 00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:33,919 research development and acquisition 676 00:33:37,909 --> 00:33:36,000 an effort that lies outside the dod 677 00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:37,919 intelligence community's purview this in 678 00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:40,559 turn would argue that any future efforts 679 00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:43,440 beyond fy 10 680 00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:44,720 a tip 681 00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:45,919 i think 682 00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:47,600 when the current contract ends should be 683 00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:50,159 moved under the appropriate dod 684 00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:59,110 i don't know why that would be black out 685 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:00,799 blacked out that first word there will 686 00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:03,760 be transferring to blank during fy 10 687 00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,320 what will be transferring 688 00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:08,639 uh blank due to economic issues will not 689 00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:10,879 be transferring okay 690 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,040 program will likely become a special 691 00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,280 access program by june 692 00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,760 2010. 693 00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:19,919 maybe a tip was that special access 694 00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:23,040 program best option appears to be 695 00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:26,399 to be to move blank program 696 00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:29,119 uh to blank during this time 697 00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:31,359 well it's not very helpful but kind of 698 00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:33,440 goes along the whole lines of what we 699 00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:46,950 all right any questions 700 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,270 i thought we did that pretty well 701 00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:52,790 so that's what i think 702 00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:55,599 on this stuff um 703 00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:57,920 and if you're going to 704 00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:00,880 you know uh research these aerospace 705 00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:03,599 vehicles right and try to let's say 706 00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:05,599 reverse engineer one as 707 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:07,680 i think a lot of this paperwork is 708 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:10,160 pretty clear that they're trying to do 709 00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:11,119 um 710 00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:13,760 what would you do to you know get the 711 00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:16,000 most observations on one which is one of 712 00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:17,680 their tasks was to 713 00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:20,560 uh build that advanced aerospace vehicle 714 00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:24,480 based off of the observables 715 00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:26,240 well you go to a place that had a lot of 716 00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:28,560 activity that i don't know maybe is 717 00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:37,349 possibly 718 00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:40,950 maybe 719 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,150 probably 720 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,270 so 721 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,150 that being said 722 00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:51,349 they went 723 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:54,320 a lot faster than i thought it would 724 00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:56,640 it's good but 725 00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:58,720 we do have 726 00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:02,000 something that we can segue to 727 00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:06,079 which i think is going to be pretty cool 728 00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:11,510 i think you'll like it 729 00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:14,880 you guys are very familiar 730 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:31,660 and it is gonna be called 731 00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:39,290 [Music] 732 00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:45,349 that's right 733 00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:47,520 our episode of what the heck is that 734 00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:49,040 that's what we're gonna do 735 00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:50,560 this is gonna be a little bit 736 00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:52,880 interesting it's a longer one and i have 737 00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:57,119 no idea what it is that we're looking at 738 00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:59,119 but 739 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:01,680 uh we're gonna look at it 740 00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:03,760 so 741 00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:06,160 i'm confused i don't know i'm sure maybe 742 00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:07,599 someone's debunked it 743 00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:10,560 to be honest i found it on reddit 744 00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:12,320 whatever 745 00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:15,520 but it's going to be pretty good 746 00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:16,960 so 747 00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:18,640 let me make sure that i have the audio 748 00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:20,640 working for you because i know how you 749 00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:22,960 guys get when you can't get the audio 750 00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:25,040 you get pissed off 751 00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:26,880 and you start hitting that thumbs down 752 00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:27,760 button 753 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,310 that would be great 754 00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:38,390 as long as you're here subscribe as well 755 00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:39,359 and 756 00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:49,589 our differences worldwide 757 00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:50,960 would vanish 758 00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:53,680 if we were facing an alien threat from 759 00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:56,560 outside this world 760 00:38:05,109 --> 00:37:58,800 and yet i ask you 761 00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:07,109 they're all over the damn place they're 762 00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:09,119 in our midst and they are 763 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:10,720 family 764 00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:12,800 we're related to them because they were 765 00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,280 the ones that had a hand in establishing 766 00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:17,520 us as a hybrid race 767 00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,400 a hundred thousand years ago 768 00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,800 and that hybridization is still underway 769 00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:24,720 it's still happening 770 00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:27,280 even as we sit here and speak 771 00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:29,200 it hasn't stopped 772 00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:30,880 it's underway 773 00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:33,440 they have different agendas some of them 774 00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:37,200 are nice folks and some of them are not 775 00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:40,160 as i said they have different agendas 776 00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:42,160 but they're all around 777 00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:44,240 the one in the upper left hand corner 778 00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:46,720 there is another 779 00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:48,640 self-luminous 780 00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:51,839 object that moves all over the place 781 00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:55,839 that object is over 2 000 miles long it 782 00:39:02,150 --> 00:38:59,520 is an artificially constructed object 783 00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:02,160 over two thousand miles long 784 00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:04,160 it's about five hundred miles in 785 00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:05,599 diameter 786 00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:07,520 can you imagine a technology and a 787 00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:08,960 society 788 00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:11,040 that can build an object two thousand 789 00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:13,359 miles long 790 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:15,760 for 500 miles in diameter 791 00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:18,160 oh this this is an object that flew up 792 00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:19,119 and 793 00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:20,800 knocked the soviet 794 00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:23,920 satellite out of orbit some years ago 795 00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:26,240 the soviets set up 796 00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:29,200 damn first-rate satellite 797 00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:31,520 no one believed me even from those few 798 00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,400 people that i was able to share this 799 00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:36,880 experience with that this is true but 800 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:38,800 luckily with the development of the 801 00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:41,040 ufology and many great people out there 802 00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:42,320 that are doing the research and 803 00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:44,240 providing the video evidence 804 00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:46,400 so as you can see this is on infrared 805 00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,560 that is why his black and white is from 806 00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:50,720 sts st3 807 00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:53,680 63 sorry and they are trying to locate 808 00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:55,760 mere space station they cannot locate 809 00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:58,160 the space station because more than 100 810 00:40:02,230 --> 00:40:00,000 objects are appearing and disappearing 811 00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:02,240 from the radar those are the same type 812 00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:04,319 of craft that i observed on the asteroid 813 00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:06,800 belt between mars and jupiter and those 814 00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:08,960 are those both of light that i was 815 00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:12,240 observing in those times as you can see 816 00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:15,359 clearly creating a intelligent formation 817 00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:17,280 and they wanted to take pictures of one 818 00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,560 of the moons they wanted to take 819 00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,640 pictures of phobos 820 00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:22,800 one of the two moons of mars 821 00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:24,800 and while they were taking pictures this 822 00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,680 object comes up from the surface of mars 823 00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:29,359 bumps the soviet 824 00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:31,839 phobos satellite knocks it out of orbit 825 00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,960 and it crashes next picture please 826 00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:36,720 what you see there is a picture of 827 00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:38,400 phobos 828 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:40,640 the the artifact the moon and i mean 829 00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:43,599 artificial moon of mars and below it you 830 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:45,440 see an object that the soviets said 831 00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:49,040 measured roughly 15 kilometers in length 832 00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:50,880 an artificial object 833 00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,000 near phobos the moon 834 00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:57,359 15 kilometers in length 835 00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:59,520 next next picture please 836 00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:00,960 that's the moon 837 00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,599 12 miles in diameter the soviets plan to 838 00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:05,280 land on it 839 00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,440 well someone else said no you're not 840 00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:08,960 going to do that 841 00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:12,240 but that is a picture of phobos 842 00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:14,319 which they've all concluded is an 843 00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:16,400 artificial satellite 844 00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:18,880 this photograph was taken by your own 845 00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,520 nasa apollo 13 guys 846 00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:23,280 on their 847 00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:24,880 their trip to the moon that didn't work 848 00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:26,880 out too well 849 00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:28,960 and many of you may have heard rumors 850 00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:32,560 about the story but apollo 13 851 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:36,640 had a small nuclear device aboard 852 00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:38,640 and they had been told by the guys that 853 00:41:43,589 --> 00:41:41,040 ran nasa that they were going to land on 854 00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:43,599 the surface gonna place this small 855 00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,280 nuclear device 856 00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:47,040 and then when they all left and came 857 00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:48,880 back aboard and came back 858 00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,520 they were going to detonate it and study 859 00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:53,760 the reverberations of this nuclear 860 00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:54,800 device 861 00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:57,680 study the seismology of the moon because 862 00:42:02,710 --> 00:41:59,520 they've been convinced for some years 863 00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,720 that the moon is basically hollow 864 00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:04,800 it appears to be somewhat of an 865 00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:07,760 artificial satellite 866 00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:10,000 well they plan to develop to detonate 867 00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:12,880 this nuclear device and then 868 00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:14,800 the others said no no you're not going 869 00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:17,280 to do that 870 00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:19,119 get back to that picture again please 871 00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:21,680 all right the object you see there in 872 00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:23,839 the middle 873 00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:27,760 over 2 000 miles long it's an artificial 874 00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,400 i assume metallic object 875 00:42:36,309 --> 00:42:33,280 probably crammed with guys 876 00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:36,319 and that object followed our apollo 13 877 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:40,319 all the way to the moon around and back 878 00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:41,920 now whether they were trying to make 879 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:44,720 sure the apollo 13 guys got home safely 880 00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:46,960 a lot whether they were the ones 881 00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:49,599 responsible for apollo 13's little 882 00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:52,319 accident which kept them from landing on 883 00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:56,720 the moon and placing that nuclear device 884 00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,280 who knows we may find out someday but 885 00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:01,280 here we have an artificial object in 886 00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:03,359 orbit now i've spent some time aboard 887 00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:05,599 aircraft carriers with my kid 888 00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:08,560 we have carriers with 5 000 men in the 889 00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:09,440 crew 890 00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:11,440 1000 feet long 891 00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:17,270 stack bars dining rooms i don't know 892 00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:18,800 what the heck that guy's talking about 893 00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:20,079 anymore 894 00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:22,079 can you imagine 895 00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:26,160 he just loves like i don't know i'm not 896 00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:28,960 going to sit here and vouch for 897 00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:31,510 anything that the guy says 898 00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:34,319 [Laughter] 899 00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:36,640 i'm just 900 00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:41,040 the video 901 00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:42,640 uh because what's in there is pretty 902 00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,760 cool 903 00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:45,359 so you know 904 00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:48,400 that's really it i'm trying to uh 905 00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:50,160 share it with you 906 00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:51,680 so you can look at it for yourself if 907 00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:54,240 you want 908 00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:56,400 yeah i mean i can't sit here and say oh 909 00:44:01,829 --> 00:43:57,839 yeah 910 00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:03,270 totally true 911 00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:09,040 if you don't believe him get out of here 912 00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:11,119 i would never do that 913 00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:12,800 uh but it's pretty pretty interesting 914 00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:16,160 video i wonder what the um reality of 915 00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:19,760 that is most definitely 916 00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:24,000 something else that i wanted to 917 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:26,000 actually show is 918 00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:30,790 increasing 919 00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:32,160 one of the 920 00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:33,920 research papers that i think was 921 00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:37,280 actually written by mr eric davis was 922 00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:41,599 about a laser-powered spacecraft 923 00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:44,720 which is pretty interesting um 924 00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:48,319 so i'm going to show that to you 925 00:45:00,730 --> 00:44:49,920 because i found a little video on it 926 00:45:00,740 --> 00:45:09,829 [Music] 927 00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:11,910 the laser beam is made up of infrared 928 00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:17,030 as the beam pulses it strips air 929 00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:19,920 molecules of their electrons creating an 930 00:45:26,340 --> 00:45:22,480 explosive plasma that propels the craft 931 00:45:26,350 --> 00:45:37,750 [Applause] 932 00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:39,349 very interesting i think that's pretty 933 00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:42,240 cool too um but 934 00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,400 uh so laser-powered propulsion system 935 00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:46,560 they've been looking into for a very 936 00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:49,920 long time that is not new 937 00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:55,349 but with that being said 938 00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:59,280 um i don't have a whole lot else to 939 00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,280 go through unless anybody had any 940 00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:03,920 questions that they wanted to ask i'm 941 00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:05,760 definitely 942 00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:06,800 um 943 00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:13,280 answering any any questions that you may 944 00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:17,510 otherwise 945 00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:24,309 skedaddle that'll i would say that um 946 00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:25,760 you know there's people right here right 947 00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:27,760 now that are looking at this all type 948 00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:30,560 stuff and really trying to discredit it 949 00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:32,800 and there's taking a little 950 00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:35,280 tiny things from it and doing that now 951 00:46:40,829 --> 00:46:37,839 if you just remember all the things that 952 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:43,349 right um the arguments given don't 953 00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:50,630 uh so us up ended in 2010 and went on as 954 00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:54,560 a tip that's what it seems like to me um 955 00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:58,079 atip was also used as a nickname for 956 00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:59,680 ossep 957 00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,119 and that was done by 958 00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:03,839 mr harry reid 959 00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:11,670 we know alessando kept 960 00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:13,680 investigating this stuff we also know 961 00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:15,440 that they wanted to transfer asap 962 00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:17,680 outside of dia if it continued on in a 963 00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:19,839 research and development aspect so if 964 00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,079 that happened maybe it continued as a 965 00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:24,800 tip with alexander in a different area 966 00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:27,119 of the government 967 00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:31,990 um 968 00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:35,359 washington commanders 969 00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:36,839 next 970 00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:38,960 question are your thoughts on lady 971 00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:41,280 fatima um 972 00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:44,720 lady fatima in brazil i'm not 973 00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:47,920 i'm not sure i know uh lady fatima was 974 00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:49,920 in portugal 975 00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:52,480 and what was that 1917 which is pretty 976 00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:53,680 interesting 977 00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:55,760 um story to me 978 00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,960 um 979 00:48:00,549 --> 00:47:58,800 you know to me it seems like when that 980 00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,559 happened that the catholic church really 981 00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:02,160 got a hold of it real quick and tried to 982 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:03,520 spin the narrative 983 00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:05,200 uh into something that would work for 984 00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:06,640 them 985 00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,400 um my ancestors are from portugal 986 00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:12,400 they were there at that time i don't 987 00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:13,920 have any stories of that or anything 988 00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:15,520 unfortunately but 989 00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:18,240 you know it's kind of interesting 990 00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:25,270 um 991 00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:29,839 trip thing many years ago yeah 992 00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:32,640 any news on corbell um not that i have 993 00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,800 just uh the little bit that i went 994 00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:36,559 through i think it was maybe the last 995 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:38,559 solo episode i did where they were 996 00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:39,760 talking about 997 00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:40,800 um 998 00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:42,319 with george knapp on coast to coast 999 00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,160 about more videos 1000 00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,480 which would be interesting 1001 00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,240 which should be 1002 00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:52,079 interesting 1003 00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,200 so 1004 00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:55,520 i have not i would love to that's on the 1005 00:49:02,309 --> 00:48:58,480 bucket list maybe i'll get there one day 1006 00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,319 i would really love to 1007 00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:04,559 yeah the the fatima event thousands of 1008 00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:12,069 that was that was a pretty big event 1009 00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:16,549 and i wonder 1010 00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:17,839 you know a lot of people say this i 1011 00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:19,760 wonder why there aren't any like mass 1012 00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:22,240 sightings now you know even phoenix 1013 00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:23,520 lights may have been the last one i'm 1014 00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,319 not sure i can't say for certain 1015 00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:28,160 but it's interesting as technology 1016 00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:31,040 evolves those are less and less and we 1017 00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:34,800 know that ufos for instance um 1018 00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:36,880 kind of act as if they don't like to be 1019 00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:38,960 seen right so 1020 00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:41,040 with the advent of technology 1021 00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:42,839 phones 1022 00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:47,119 accessible maybe it's possible that uh 1023 00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:48,559 different means 1024 00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,680 of traveling are taken 1025 00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:54,000 it would make sense 1026 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:55,760 can't say for sure 1027 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,190 it's possibility 1028 00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:06,790 oh yeah um thanks for the tip andrei's i 1029 00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:08,240 would love to go there eventually for 1030 00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:12,549 fortunately i do 1031 00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:14,960 all my time is you know put into things 1032 00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:17,359 that i don't profit from so that doesn't 1033 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:25,349 one day 1034 00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:26,710 oh 1035 00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:28,400 do you think we as humans will use this 1036 00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:29,839 tech to build up to other worlds you 1037 00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:33,119 know that's a good question um it seems 1038 00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:36,800 um to travel to others possibly you know 1039 00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,680 um 1040 00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:39,119 especially with the warp drive and 1041 00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:41,200 everything and 1042 00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:42,640 you know there's there's definitely 1043 00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:44,240 initiatives 1044 00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:46,160 um like project icarus i think it's 1045 00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:48,079 called with one of the authors of one of 1046 00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:51,359 the awesome nerds actually uh runs that 1047 00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:54,720 danny uh silva did a great piece on that 1048 00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:56,559 so you can go to his website civil 1049 00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:57,440 record 1050 00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:59,280 if you want to check that out but um 1051 00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:00,480 [Music] 1052 00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:02,160 they talk about interstellar space 1053 00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:04,000 travel you know 1054 00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:06,640 and basically it's 1055 00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,640 you know people are trying to figure out 1056 00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:12,319 a better means of propulsion that can 1057 00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:14,800 make that possible it's the propulsion 1058 00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,480 that stops us from being able to do that 1059 00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,200 we can't do that uh with typical rocket 1060 00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:21,119 engines right 1061 00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:23,680 we can't do interstellar space travel 1062 00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,720 that way 1063 00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,720 so they're trying to figure out how to 1064 00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:28,640 do that 1065 00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:33,839 is 1066 00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:36,880 things like warp drive which seems to be 1067 00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:39,119 from all the research i've done the most 1068 00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:42,640 feasible plausible and possible 1069 00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:49,270 from everything i've been looking at and 1070 00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:51,280 there's other things like 1071 00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:53,920 nuclear propulsion all that 1072 00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,599 other things like that 1073 00:51:59,670 --> 00:51:57,359 um laser 1074 00:52:01,510 --> 00:51:59,680 powered propulsion 1075 00:52:02,549 --> 00:52:01,520 but in the end it seems like uh warp 1076 00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:02,559 drive is 1077 00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:03,359 the 1078 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,829 so 1079 00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:11,670 would i go to another galaxy and build a 1080 00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:12,960 farmhouse 1081 00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:14,319 sure 1082 00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,079 why not 1083 00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:18,480 sounds interesting 1084 00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:20,720 that's for sure 1085 00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:22,960 i like interesting i do 1086 00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:24,559 interesting 1087 00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:26,400 most definitely 1088 00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,589 that's a good comment lionel i hope the 1089 00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:35,680 jwst 1090 00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:38,720 the web telescope basically will prove 1091 00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:41,200 it there is life on approximate b 1092 00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:42,880 um 1093 00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:44,400 i guess i don't have any hopes that it 1094 00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:47,200 proves it in a particular 1095 00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:48,559 place 1096 00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,520 but i do hope that 1097 00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:53,119 there's some evidence that can be shared 1098 00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:54,720 with the public does come from that i 1099 00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:56,880 mean nasa is interesting right now i can 1100 00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:57,839 say 1101 00:53:03,010 --> 00:53:00,720 because it seems like they're i'm 1102 00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:03,020 sharing stuff a little more um 1103 00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:04,800 [Music] 1104 00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:06,079 you know every week at least or 1105 00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:07,760 something just the other day it was a 1106 00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:10,000 discovery of 5000 more exoplanets within 1107 00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:11,119 the galaxy 1108 00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:14,480 um then it was uh the furthest star away 1109 00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:16,720 which is like um 1110 00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:18,400 something like a billion light years 1111 00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:20,240 from the beginning of time or the big 1112 00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:22,000 bang or something 1113 00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:25,839 um and then they found on pluto recently 1114 00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:29,359 these possibly active ice volcanoes 1115 00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:31,520 all sorts of things that they're um just 1116 00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:33,760 discovering now right 1117 00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:36,160 so i can totally see that happening i'm 1118 00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:38,079 finding it some sort of other 1119 00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:42,470 and 1120 00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:44,880 you know to be honest 1121 00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:47,119 there's a strong case 1122 00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,599 to say that they already know 1123 00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:51,520 that that exists you know 1124 00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:53,200 um but they wouldn't need some sort of 1125 00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:56,160 medium and plan to share that right even 1126 00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:57,839 in their paperwork when they're talking 1127 00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:58,880 about 1128 00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:00,319 nasa's paperwork when they're talking 1129 00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:02,559 about going to mars and looking for 1130 00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:04,559 other signs of biological life there 1131 00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:06,240 whether it be intelligent or not isn't a 1132 00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:07,680 part of it but 1133 00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:09,040 how they would treat that how they would 1134 00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:11,359 tell other people you know 1135 00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:13,119 and in that paperwork 1136 00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:14,880 they don't just talk about 1137 00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:16,559 you know we'll just tell people we you 1138 00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:18,480 know what's the big deal 1139 00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:20,720 they talk about 1140 00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:22,400 an oversight committee 1141 00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:23,440 they talk about the different 1142 00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:24,960 implications how they would share that 1143 00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:27,520 with different scientists right so 1144 00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:29,280 um 1145 00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:31,440 you know when 1146 00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:33,920 they decide to tell other people 1147 00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:35,200 i think 1148 00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:36,559 we should know 1149 00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:38,240 that it would be attached to some sort 1150 00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:39,040 of 1151 00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:41,839 uh preconceived plan to tell people and 1152 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,870 so 1153 00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:50,309 you know and 1154 00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,240 there's talk about what the stuff is 1155 00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:54,319 interdimensional 1156 00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:56,240 you know um 1157 00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:58,240 extraterrestrial where's the evidence 1158 00:55:02,470 --> 00:55:00,480 was it for as far as we're concerned i 1159 00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:02,480 don't know if we have evidence for it 1160 00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:04,960 being either and think about it too if 1161 00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:06,480 it's 1162 00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:10,079 extraterrestrial but we see it 1163 00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:12,160 you know being here 1164 00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,280 right 1165 00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:15,040 how the hell do we know 1166 00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:17,280 how extraterrestrials travel or how they 1167 00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:18,240 do it 1168 00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:19,280 you know 1169 00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:20,480 just because it seems like it's 1170 00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:22,720 interdimensional does that mean it is or 1171 00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:24,880 is that just how space-faring 1172 00:55:28,230 --> 00:55:26,160 intelligence 1173 00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:28,240 travel 1174 00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:30,160 you know from one atmosphere of a planet 1175 00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:32,079 into another 1176 00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:34,720 i don't know 1177 00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,359 and to know that kind of stuff i think 1178 00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:39,280 you know 1179 00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:41,599 to get that deep might be beyond us i 1180 00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:46,829 i don't 1181 00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,880 know but i do know that any sort of more 1182 00:55:53,589 --> 00:55:52,480 information that we get or some sort of 1183 00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:53,599 disclosure 1184 00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:54,880 is going to be well thought about 1185 00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:57,520 beforehand and things like 1186 00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,559 um 1187 00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:00,319 the government will think of you know 1188 00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:03,200 things like if they have any control 1189 00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:04,799 or um 1190 00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:07,359 you know enough knowledge or a good 1191 00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:09,920 enough handle on what the stuff is to 1192 00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:11,520 feel comfortable telling other people 1193 00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:14,559 about it like the public 1194 00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:16,240 because if they just come out and say 1195 00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:17,839 here's what it is 1196 00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:19,359 we don't know 1197 00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:21,280 that's the kind of thing that does lead 1198 00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:22,000 to 1199 00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:23,520 called religions 1200 00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:25,520 you know some sort of mass hysteria 1201 00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:32,069 you know 1202 00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:37,910 i don't really know 1203 00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:46,789 but if it's that hard to figure out you 1204 00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:48,799 know there's also an argument for 1205 00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:49,839 what are you going to wait forever 1206 00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:50,960 you're never going to figure this thing 1207 00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:53,599 out just tell people 1208 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,349 but um 1209 00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:03,990 yeah 1210 00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:06,160 jimmy church i love that 1211 00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:10,000 [Laughter] 1212 00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:12,799 not to be confused with jimmy church 1213 00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:19,430 so 1214 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,870 there is 1215 00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:26,630 um 1216 00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:28,000 there's there's a lot to be thought 1217 00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,160 about as far as that uh more than 1218 00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:32,640 anything i think it's important to 1219 00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:35,280 i think personally it's important to 1220 00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:36,480 think about 1221 00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:38,480 um the term 1222 00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:41,359 uh disclosure and what your actual 1223 00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:42,880 expectations are 1224 00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,920 right 1225 00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:45,119 and i don't 1226 00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:46,880 i don't mean that as a lower your 1227 00:57:57,430 --> 00:57:55,109 what does that look like 1228 00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:57,440 honestly 1229 00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:59,119 and another thing to think about is do 1230 00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:00,400 you think 1231 00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:02,240 that our government actually has all the 1232 00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:07,750 now you can take the route of they're 1233 00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:09,599 just ets they're raised they're from a 1234 00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:10,960 different planet that's the end there's 1235 00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:12,960 a spaceship they crash at roswell bye 1236 00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:19,750 i guess yeah it would be a typical 1237 00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:21,680 here's the body you know disclosure at 1238 00:58:25,910 --> 00:58:24,000 the white house capital d but i just do 1239 00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:25,920 not think 1240 00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:28,880 that it is um like that 1241 00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:31,839 do i know for sure of course not 1242 00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:33,839 but i think whatever it is would be a 1243 00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:41,430 you know 1244 00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:43,359 to the point of where i don't even think 1245 00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:46,160 that our government officials 1246 00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:50,000 have a handle on what it is 1247 00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:53,200 that's just what i think though 1248 00:58:55,980 --> 00:58:55,599 all right escape from series b i have no 1249 00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:55,990 idea 1250 00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:57,920 [Laughter] 1251 00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:02,150 uh 1252 00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:05,680 okay gotcha 1253 00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:07,359 that being said all right i had a good 1254 00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:09,359 time with y'all um don't forget to like 1255 00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:10,960 the video 1256 00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:13,359 super appreciate that 1257 00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:21,349 that would be awesome 1258 00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:22,110 and 1259 00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:23,839 [Music] 1260 00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:26,079 it is not that damn simple that's what i 1261 00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:31,990 so subscribe if you haven't uh like the 1262 00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:34,240 video share it that would be fantastic 1263 00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:35,520 if you could share it on like your 1264 00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:36,880 socials and stuff 1265 00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:38,799 all that stuff helps man you know i 1266 00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:41,359 don't put ads on this stuff i don't you 1267 00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:44,160 know promote um i have although a 1268 00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:46,799 patreon i don't sit here and promote it 1269 00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:47,839 um 1270 00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:49,920 or any of that kind of stuff so anything 1271 00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:52,880 you could do to support would be sharing 1272 00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:54,640 via social media liking the video 1273 00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:57,040 subscribing all that kind of stuff 1274 01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:59,440 so with that being said i appreciate all 1275 01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:00,720 your time hopefully i gave you a good 1276 01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:03,599 rundown of what i see with our 78 tip 1277 01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:05,200 hopefully 1278 01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:06,720 you know some of that resonates with you 1279 01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:08,160 and you can take it with you but in the 1280 01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:11,520 end you got to make up your own mind so 1281 01:00:24,790 --> 01:00:13,040 that being said 1282 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:34,950 [Music] 1283 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,220 so